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[Alastago]

That would mean that ANYONE can then post in it, not just putting the focus on the more experienced members who have the lengthy years of draconity to share with the site for information, advice, etc.  So if it was just anyone posting them in Spirituality (as in, the way it is now) then that defeats the point of making it an informative section of the board for sharing experiences from the "older" members.
I dislike subforums because they get very little light shed on them and for something that has the purpose of being a section to provide information as well as giving us more dragonkin/draconity related posts, I think it deserves to get it's own board :)

Actually, I did initially think of letting anyone post their thread in there. It would make it far more interactive than just "read only" stories from the older members. Sure, a few threads by the older members, it kicks up some discussion(as seen in previous similar threads), but soon it would become a true archive: people read it and it goes quiet. Why not allow the people not as far in their awakening to post it up too? Heck, even if it were fluffy, it's contained in there and people can leave it or help. I'm just saying: if you want it to be a board of its own, making it an archive of some older members' stories would make it quiet *real* fast. I wanted to attract the newer kin there too, to post up their story so far.

[Kiantis]

-I haven't seen many of these threads around. Nez has one, PC-72 has one. The rest just seems to be some scattered updates about one's progression, in people's blogs, but not complete stories.

Mh, wondering also about a template/guideline of writing one. Or maybe not. Afterall it's just personal stuff that varies too much between people.

-information..century old, scattered? Are you thinking of a timeline or something?

Point is: with the frequency of interaction over those subjects, it'd be hard to keep the thing alive. But I guess it was already know.

-How is updating your own story difficult?

I found it quite uneasy when dealing with the 3d printer topic, that in the end I've just added posts in the end.
Mainly because i had to enlighten the new modifications, and the thread didn't bump on edit.
Plus, big text becomes encumbering to edit.
But again, just practical things.

[CosmicStarsAbove]

That would mean that ANYONE can then post in it, not just putting the focus on the more experienced members who have the lengthy years of draconity to share with the site for information, advice, etc.  So if it was just anyone posting them in Spirituality (as in, the way it is now) then that defeats the point of making it an informative section of the board for sharing experiences from the "older" members.

devoting an entire section to a select group feels like we're creating a certain pedestal for them that's kind of unnecessary. don't get me wrong, i'm sure that someone who's been awakened for 70 years will have more advice to give than a 16-year-old who entered the general fields of spirituality/otherkin a year ago (almost to the date!), but that same advice (or life story) could be shared without creating an entire section for them. it's already shared whenever spirituality comes up in the form of replies to threads or the creation of their own thread in the Spirituality board, and i think people are more inclined to read those posts when they're already in a more conversational atmosphere than if they were in a formal (translation: "educational") one.

Alastago's newest post sounds pretty good, if we do end up with something like this.

[Selroth]

I agree, it should be its own board that not everyone can post in immediately.  It really should be a "showcase". 

I think it getting the attention will encourage more experienced members to write their own, and will definitely help everyone on the forum take draconity more seriously.  I think this could be a wonderful turn for this community.

[Alastago]

I agree, it should be its own board that not everyone can post in immediately.  It really should be a "showcase". 

I think it getting the attention will encourage more experienced members to write their own, and will definitely help everyone on the forum take draconity more seriously.  I think this could be a wonderful turn for this community.

I see there's some disagreement about whether everyone should be allowed to put their story up there, or just experienced members. Since it's just been me, cosmic, and you two admins that have posted their opinions about this, I suggest you poll around more and see what people would rather see: An archive which the newer awakaned can only read(Which will have a far higher educational level), or an archive where they can put their own up as well(which will make it more interactive and probably encourage people to tell their story here).

[Aurelia]

Just because only the "older" members could post their experiences doesn't mean it would be read only - any member could reply to those topics to ask questions, ask for more information, get more advice.

It seems people aren't grasping why we want to limit the thread creation to the members who have the most experience and to take out the fluff, so try to see it like this...  If you apply for a new job, something you've never experienced before, and you get it then you'll be given advice, information and tales of experience by the people who have been in that job role the longest; by the people who actually have the experience for you to learn from.  If new people in that job role also gave you advice that would be based on nothing but pure guesswork in comparison, then that would be counter productive to your development and learning.

That's why we only want the "older" members to be able to start threads in this new board, for them to be the ones sharing their knowledge and experiences as well as giving guidance and information because they are the ones who have been otherkin long enough to have quality advice to pass on, without fear of it being tainted with fluff that would then be detrimental to the development of the younger/newer members of the site and also of otherkinness as a whole.

We're not making some elitist forum area - as members get that knowledge themselves over the years they, too, can pass on their experiences.  But if we just let anyone post anything it will end up being pure fluff and completely the opposite of what we're trying to create.  We want an area where experienced members can pass on advice and guidance; where other members can follow up with questions and explore those experiences in more depth.

There is no pedestal.  It kind of surprises me that anyone would think having a forum devoted to the most experienced otherkin passing on their advice and guidance would be putting anyone on a pedestal.

It would be an incredibly helpful tool, I would think.

We're also not saying that other members wouldn't be allowed to post their experiences in there as they get the years of experience behind them - it wouldn't just be a few people and stay as those same people for years and years, there would be more people added to there as their knowledge grows.  Just like in the workplace I mentioned earlier, as that new person is mentored from the more experienced people he would gain knowledge himself over time and eventually be asked to mentor new people himself.

[Selroth]

Another side-idea is to let anyone post in the forum, and sticky the good ones?  Could even attach a cheesy "was this article helpful?" poll to it to help us gauge if it's sticky-worthy or not =P

[Aurelia]

Another side-idea is to let anyone post in the forum, and sticky the good ones?  Could even attach a cheesy "was this article helpful?" poll to it to help us gauge if it's sticky-worthy or not =P

That's no different to how Spirituality is now.

I don't understand why some people are saying they dislike this idea due to only the experienced members being able to post their experiences (and then ANYONE can reply to those), when Spirituality is already a place where anyone can post their experiences (and has been for a long time) and noone other than the experienced members have ever taken the time to write out a long and thorough post of their advice, guidance and experiences so far.  This new board would be to collect those, and new posts from experienced members, in one place; to create a "library" to help from those people who can reflect far enough back on their experiences to be able to do so.

We already have a board where anyone can post their experiences and noone chooses to take the time to do so other than a couple of the "older" members (other "older" members choose not to due to the fact of the fluff that also gets posted).  If every member on here had posted a thoughtful post to guide and advise new members then I could understand why some members would be opposed to a board where only "older" members could start threads, but that's not the case so I don't understand this reason of opposition.

[Alastago]

in this case, yeah, I support your ideas. I hadn't even considered yet that the original spirituality could've been used for this by people but wasn't. Your ideas just differed a bit from mine in the sense that I wanted it to be a separate forum for discussion, but now you've convinced me for the archive style. I'm behind this now :)

[Loh]

As an individual who finds otherkin "awakening" and spiritual/personal development essays utterly fascinating (I've been known to read them as a pass-time), I quite enjoy this inspired idea.

I may not post here much, but I do readily browse these unique forums for a different perspective on the topic of otherkin. And a dedicated section featuring well-written, personal articles, wherein the author is encouraged to honestly depict their own identity-based experiences appeals greatly to stalker types, such as myself. ^_^

When I first began on this journey, I would've been in heaven to have so easily encountered a similar archive, outside of Otherkin.net.

I wish you the best fortune in whatever you may decide.

[Kiantis]

That's no different to how Spirituality is now.

In fact...
I believe the key point would be to find a technique/reason to incentive writing those.
It might seem more or less a themed 'journal' from a certain viewpoint... and yet sometimes cool things may pop even by 'asking around'.
I believe also that certain things to be written need both knowing very good what you know, and to know how to write it down. In the case the second may be slightly lacking, I suppose a guide (or sorta) might be helpful. For example: a while ago I remember we were answering to a chain of questions/questionnaire. It was quite general, but still something for maybe who doesn't have a lot to say in the first place, or is finding some troubles expressing.

Though returning to the whole singular topics...
Why not sticking/archiving the material we already have now, for a start?
Or maybe starting by browsing with the draconity tag? (or adding that tag to specific posts, like tag hunting topics?)

Or was this section meant to be written 'as anew'?

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Regarding the present spiritual forum, and on a parallel activity, I'm quite curious to know if new users are, or would, or how, be interested in such things. Like asking as a question community wide... not sure which question specifically, maybe something like 'what would you expect from a spiritual viewpoint to be discussed', or if ever 'expecting anything spiritual to be discussed at all'?
Or was this question already asked before?

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Again for general promoting on the field:
What about making replicas of those IRC chats scheduled sessions we had time ago, regarding spirituality?


(now now, all these ideas seems to mess up a bit all of them in a single post...)

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