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Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« on: October 23, 2010, 04:15:47 AM »

As you may know (or are about to find out), Dragon Realms is the first draconity forum I stumbled across and joined.  It is the place where much of my spirituality and views were shaped, and to an extend continue to be shaped to this day.  At its peak, it offered a great amount of information, spiritual advice, and well-reasoned arguments across a variety of dragon-related subjects. 

Unfortunately, it has fallen by the wayside.

A lot of the core veterans, myself included until recently, have become busy with work, school, or various other distractions.  Activity comes in small bursts, but I'm worried that the board will soon die completely.  I'm not just opposed to this because of my history, or the great friendships that started from association on the forums.  My greatest worry is seeing (in my mind) one of the greatest stores of spiritual advice, knowledge, and resources disappear from the web. 

To prevent this from happening, I'm issuing a call to everyone here: check us out!  Dragon Realms is a moderately serious board, with a focus on balancing spiritual progression and identity with reasoning and reality.  Like here, fluff is met with skepticism, and newer members are encouraged to question for their own sake rather than make things up for any perceived popularity.

Registration is here if you don't have an account.  I am in charge of applications, so go ahead, fill one out, and if I like you enough I will go ahead and let you in!  There are rules, but they're really about the same as here: don't abuse the technology.  Two differences being: cussing is generally frowned upon, and biting the forums even more so.

So go forth (come hither?), and help us build Dragon Realms back to its former glory!

Interested?  Excellent.  Here is a good place to start.  If you find an older thread not on that list that you like, bring it back... but only if it's a page or two, or isn't more than a year or so old.  Anything from two years and up with more than two pages is gonna be painful to read all the way through, so it may be best to start a new topic with your insights.  Feel free to link back and even comment on points from the thread that inspired you!  We've covered a lot of ground, and while it may not be best to dig up large, old topics, having a fresh perspective on past debates can do wonders.

See you on the other side!
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 06:15:25 AM »

Well, I've been thinking about joining, but I'm already part of a few kin forums already (including this one). I might, but not right now.
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 09:07:34 AM »

I feel I already go to enough forums, so I'm afraid I'm not going to stand up for it. Though I might change my mind and be a not too active member over there. We'll see.
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2010, 10:24:32 AM »

i, m a member there but as you said it's activity is few and far between. for the sake of trying to keep it alive i'll try and post/reply there more often (as i'v kinda ignored it for a long time). hopefully it will get busy again.

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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2010, 10:40:26 AM »

Been checking now and then. And not only that one.
Never been much of a thread starter myself, not here, there, or on any other forums. I guess i'm just like that.

Why not the contrary, though? If all people are everywhere, the 'forum distinctions' begin to collapse... practically. And the community (to me a community is defined as the users that makes it) returns to a whole.

The only problem about that is practical reasons. But i wonder about openID... using a common authentication system could lead to agregation softwares, basically like it happens with rss. Activity just goes where it's needed, after that.

In fact, usenets weren't much different from this concept.
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2010, 11:17:54 AM »

I wonder why we can not simply share what it had with this forum. Such as how the spiritual board is set up. Because dragon-realms seemed to be very organized in that area.

Im a member on there, and I admit I havent been on there for a while, the activity there is too long and far between, and its not something i can keep up to. I tend to want to keep to one place, or I'd be trying to watch over 3 different forums all with similiar aims (all being about the draconic community), and I know there are more. People tend to stick to one thing that catches them most. The only thing I have to get used to about draconity.org is the color... I loved the dark tones of draconic.com and dragon-realms  :smile:

And I thought it was already considerably dead, the front page news didnt even have a 6yrs post about it being 2010 already, and we are passing into 2011 soon enough. I understand if the dragons that are keeping it active are busy, it would slowly fade if there aint enough activity. I like active sites such as this one. Its something that can keep me interested even if its with a mix of serious topics and entertaining threads to pass those in-between times.
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 04:16:50 PM »

i would post there as i already have an account [StarlightAurora] if people would give me more things to post in. it really is a great forum, for meeting people, but moreso for spiritual guiding. it really helped me weed out what was real and what wasn't in my draconity, and also helped with my spirituality in other ways too.
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Like here, fluff is met with skepticism, and newer members are encouraged to question for their own sake rather than make things up
that hits the nail on the head. :laugh:

it's kind of like a library for otherkin guidance. i'd hate to see that die too.
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2010, 04:31:34 PM »

I like dragon-realms, I might as well try to play my part. Though you cant blame me for forgetting it if it stays so quite, Im too scatter-brained trying to remember all the other stuff I have.
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2010, 05:15:02 PM »

I'm fond of DR and will get involved in discussions of interest regardless of which community I see them crop up in. :)
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2010, 05:43:15 PM »

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Now, see, your experience of Dragon-Realms has been quite different from mine.

Back.. I'm guessing 2006/7 because I don't remember how far back it was, I took a strong dislike to this "prove you're otherkin" registration system. I voiced this dislike on the then Draconity IRC server (before the server crash), and a good debate was had. While one operator on the channel was taking the con side of the debate, one user defended my right to hold an opinion contrary to that of their site staff. After this happened, the operator in question rage-quit.

Now as sketchy as my memory of those events is, I do remember explaining myself a lot clearer after the mood had calmed to another operator. They passed that onto their mate who was an administrator on Dragon-Realms. I applied to join DR, half-expecting my own application to be rejected but it was accepted.

What I had heard from behind the scenes put me off using DR as a serious site, in addition to, a number of the things I'd witnessed on the forums themselves. What was said to me, was that the operator that quit, passed the conversation log back to his fellow site staff members, they all had a good laugh about it, and someone drew a 'drama llama' pic directed towards them apparently. This kind of childish and immature behavior is not something that should be held by any member of a site's administration if said site wishes to be seen as a bastion of mature and serious discussion.
Of course, I cannot verify any of this, and since it happened years ago, it's not even important, save, to highlight just one of a number of things I felt was quite, off, about the website.

Another thing, that seemed to be quite consistent, was the general snobbery. With various (usually the long-term) members spouting "respect me and my opinion because I've been here (on this site) longer". Users that would whine and rage if another user challanged their assumptions. It really did feel like, if you didn't agree with the administration and regular users, you were not wanted nor welcome on the site.

Dragon-Realms has always, to me, been a collective circle-jerk, which was why I'd avoided using it for all those years. While I'm certainly no saint myself and I've had my own and rather rough period of post-awakening adjustment. I've not always displayed the best or most mature attitude when dealing with others. I'm certainly no stranger to a temper either.

However, if a site like DragonRealms is to grow, and not become stagnant like Draconic, it needs to give people reasons to join. It needs to give people reasons to see it as an active, welcoming and mature community that doesn't shun and shy away outsiders that don't fit into the belief patterns of the incumbent members and administrators.
Surprisingly enough, I found myself far more at home, on a well known community site catering to far different ends and met some of the nicest and fun dragons in that time. I still lurk on sites like this when time permits, between work and other commitments I don't have much of it anymore.

Even this website, as open and free as it is, isn't entirely faultless, however, I trust the administrators and operators of this website, to listen to anyone who feels they have a valid concern or criticism with how things are done. If Dragon-Realms has changed from the site that I remember it being, all those years ago, and become a good community that's open to other people's differences of opinion and view, then it'll grow again.
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2010, 05:53:40 PM »

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However, if a site like DragonRealms is to grow, and not become stagnant like Draconic, it needs to give people reasons to join.

I'm actually a part of Draconic.com. It's the first otherkin community I joined when I first began my journey of self-discovery. It was nice when I first joined, but the glamour has faded since then. I'm not going to outright leave just yet as I still have no reason to do so. Plus, it may be helpful of me to redirect new members there to here if they find that Draconic isn't the place for them.
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2010, 07:17:36 PM »

Now, see, your experience of Dragon-Realms has been quite different from mine.
Eh, three sides to every story.  I'm quite sure they had their valid reasoning, but I'd rather not get involved in hearsay.  A fair amount of the old admins/mods are among those who have moved on/become busy, so folks like myself are taking up the helm in their stead.  I'd certainly want the place to be tolerant (within reason, of course!). 

And I can tell you from the registration system that it's neither a "prove you're otherkin" system or anything of the sort.  As a member moderator whose primary responsibility is to review applications, I have certainly been given a new perspective on how a simple registration system can weed out a lot of Bad Characters™.  You haven't seen strange... :[

But, that's neither here nor there.  Thank you to all those who expressed interest in helping out, and I certainly hope we can turn things around!
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2010, 07:58:48 PM »

I'm actually a part of Draconic.com. It's the first otherkin community I joined when I first began my journey of self-discovery. It was nice when I first joined, but the glamour has faded since then. I'm not going to outright leave just yet as I still have no reason to do so. Plus, it may be helpful of me to redirect new members there to here if they find that Draconic isn't the place for them.
I'm on there too, but it was a dead board when I joined.
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2010, 07:59:57 PM »

I'm on there too, but it was a dead board when I joined.

It's been flitting between dead and active these days.
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Re: Help Wanted: Dragon Realms Revival Project™!
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2010, 08:33:14 PM »

Eh, three sides to every story.  I'm quite sure they had their valid reasoning, but I'd rather not get involved in hearsay.  A fair amount of the old admins/mods are among those who have moved on/become busy, so folks like myself are taking up the helm in their stead.  I'd certainly want the place to be tolerant (within reason, of course!). 

And I can tell you from the registration system that it's neither a "prove you're otherkin" system or anything of the sort.  As a member moderator whose primary responsibility is to review applications, I have certainly been given a new perspective on how a simple registration system can weed out a lot of Bad Characters™.  You haven't seen strange... :[
Of course their is, and I don't trust what I said to be Gospel in any sort, it was several years ago. My point is that those kinds of attitudes will drive new members away, if they're no longer an issue, that's fantastic.

One member, a friend of mine, a good friend at that, was twice rejected when he applied to join this community. I don't believe he was given any reason other than "your application was rejected" and told to try again in a month. I saw his application, there was nothing wrong with them, he's far more of a dragon than most of the wannabes I found lurking on other sites, he got accepted when I proof-read and rewrote his application.

I am giving you this as a measure of constructive feedback on how the site operated in the past.
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